New Bylaw Prohibiting Sleeping After 7:00 AM

Why not serve a pancake breakfast for the bylaw officers when they arrive at 7 am. Will they not eat with the rabble? And how can they suggest that people have to leave when everyone is preparing to eat their morning breakfast? Perhaps the campers could feed the officers a spot of tea and an english biscuit? Tell the officers that it is a charity breakfast being held to raise money for the hiring of a homeless spokesperson in charge of communication and have the homeless persons communication department give the officers their breakfast collect the money hire david as the spokesperson draft up a document from your society and give a copy to the officers stating the obvious, that the tent city is in fact permanent because the campers do not follow the english gregorian calender and therefore do not have to follow the time of the city as everyone at the camp is of a different time and that time as I understand it correctly was forever ago.

Anyone who is sleeping past 7am should be on their feet regardless of owning a home or living on the streets. If you're homeless and want to make a point, go to Saanich or Oak Bay...they're the rich municipalities who have totally IGNORED THE HOMELESS ever since their founding date. At least Victoria has tried to make an effort or two. Have some fun with this you guys, go camp out in Uplands or Broadmead....show the real rich a thing or two. Victoria has seen its share of this regional problem, now its time for you to share it with the region. Think about it....without pressure on Saanich and Oak Bay, they will continue to ignore you and your concerns like they always have...there is no reason to help you or assist Victoria with the costs, resource sharing or implementation of a system to break the cycle of poverty. I don't support your desire to disrupt Victoria solely, however, taking on Saanich and Oak Bay is something I would encourage!

As sad as it may be, it takes this event to create opportunity. Lets be reasonable. The goal is ?? to live in a home?? To have a job?? The right to ?? So,if we all had this right to float and gather, what structure would you dine on???? I think...actually, I know this is a problem of ideals;the fuel is underfunded solutions that have been forgotten. forgotten while the government is fleecing the middle class.

The real issue is how do all different people with different ideals live together. Not forcing any one ideal on all. Fight to exspand options that will actually work for the greater good of everyone. This way you will get your part of the happiness pie faster.

No one person is entitled to the whole pie not even the homeless person in the park.

Everyday people go to work working hard with no time but there time at work. The government build's and maintains parks with the taxes collected. If you do not want to be a part of the "system" that creates the parks, come up with a solution that is reliant completely on "you". I am sure canada is willing to give you a head start in your endeavor.

The other option is to fight for a hand in the forming of a fair law that would force the government to provide real funding for the infrastructure in place. This funding would help the "entire" issue of homelessness.

It would however have to start with a system of fair laws governing the right of "all" citizens regarding the use of parks and the right to safe surroundings, streets.

Now is your chance to do it right, instead of righteously wrong.

Quick

...The Lord hears the cry of the poor blessed be Lord...

...this is what Yahweh asks:only this, to act justly, to love tenderly and to walk humbly with your God.

hopefully then we'll see the lord out with us poor folk then at 7am...tell him to bring coffee

WorkingGuy - I agree... areas like Oak Bay and Saanich need to be active participants in this... if you look at the histories of any social movement, however, whether it be equal rights, race relations, or feminism - you'll see that the main impetus for change comes from the middle-class.

The rich will never fight for change because they're rich. The status quo benefits them.

The poor can't fight for change because they are too busy surviving or because the rest of society ignores them.

The fight for social change, for justice - for good, is left up to the middle-class. The middle-class has enough money to devote some time, but not so much money that they can't take the risk on change.

And change will never come if you ask someone else to take care of it.

Quickerest - In many ways this tent city is the beginning of the "fair laws" that you were describing. This long court battle was won by the plaintiffs because the law was not fair.

Emergency shelters are full. The number of beds for those who need them is inadequate. A law stating that you can't protect yourself from the rain or snow because you have nowhere to go is ridiculous. If you have no choice, what are you to do?

Right now a section of the population that normally have no voice are helping to change the laws. That is an incredible feat.

You suggest that Canada will give people a "head start" to create an independent system. Do you really believe that Canada will give them land, money, and the right to live apart from the rest of society?

You speak of having rights to safety and parks, but does the right to survival not trump the right to green access? Are we all really so selfish that we are ready let people die because we want to take a walk in the park?

The "entire" issue of homelessness will not be helped only by simple funding. Society must implement changes in the way it functions before there can be any significant results. Poverty is on the rise. More and more people are losing their homes.

People with jobs (look at Calgary) are finding themselves on the street night after night because there are not enough available homes.

Those participating in tent-city are fighting for the law and for their lives.

We can all do more.

Understood .. My writing can be confusing at the best of times.

I will try to make it short and sweet.

The law should basically push for no tolerance for sleeping on the street or in parks...BUT it must also include the responsibility of the federal gov to properly fund and prove the ability to meet the need. Its a trade.

If you want this to stop, if you want opportunities for all, Share the information and share pictures of the poorly managed tent cities in the united states. Have clean homeless people go door to door with a petition.

They don't believe you have rights. don't fight them on it. What about their right? How can you help them get the peace and utopia they want. Show them how they can help reform the people on the street and help them understand how tangible the change can be. USE FEAR.

Use the fear they have now to acquire a law that puts the responsibility on the government. You know, the government that just spent 300 million to see who was boss.I am sure 100 million to properly address this problem would look good on paper for those in power.

What will really happen? Well if you use this time wisely you can change the movement of money not only to shelters but towards finding real solutions to help the people who fall through the cracks .

Beds are a band-aid that is needed but not the solution.
Beds don't stop drug use issues, beds don't force mental health patients to be responsible for there actions when they decide to not take there medication, Beds don't offer solutions for mothers who have no real support for them or there children. I know there are others as well. Beds are a cheap band-aid, and you are fools if you let this stop at the number of beds you can get.

Do this right and you have a chance to make a change.

Give people an alternative that is real and they will sign up for it.

Good luck, hope to never see you on the street again.